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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
		<link>http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/why-you-should-use-png-and-not-jpeg/comment-page-1/#comment-6247</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jommy -

If I don&#039;t have access to the object that was turned into the PNG in the first place, I do the following:

Open the image file in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.irfanview.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IrfanView&lt;/a&gt;.
Go to Image menu &gt; Resize/Resample.
Pick a percentage for a new size that changes the image by a number that&#039;s the quotient of two small integers.
&lt;em&gt;For example, 75% (3/4) or 80% (4/5) are better than 78%. This isn&#039;t as critical as it once was.&lt;/em&gt;
Use the resample not resize method.

Then I save the new image with a new name. I always retain the original without adulterating it.

It may take some experimenting to get it to look okay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jommy -</p>
<p>If I don&#8217;t have access to the object that was turned into the PNG in the first place, I do the following:</p>
<p>Open the image file in <a href="http://www.irfanview.com/" rel="nofollow">IrfanView</a>.<br />
Go to Image menu > Resize/Resample.<br />
Pick a percentage for a new size that changes the image by a number that&#8217;s the quotient of two small integers.<br />
<em>For example, 75% (3/4) or 80% (4/5) are better than 78%. This isn&#8217;t as critical as it once was.</em><br />
Use the resample not resize method.</p>
<p>Then I save the new image with a new name. I always retain the original without adulterating it.</p>
<p>It may take some experimenting to get it to look okay.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay. If I have a PNG image at 800x500 and want to shrink it while maintaining the aspect ratio (so the picture doesn&#039;t distort), what tools can I use to do that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay. If I have a PNG image at 800&#215;500 and want to shrink it while maintaining the aspect ratio (so the picture doesn&#8217;t distort), what tools can I use to do that?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
		<link>http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/why-you-should-use-png-and-not-jpeg/comment-page-1/#comment-6224</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimmy -

Once it&#039;s encoded in JPG, the damage has been done. Your choices are to leave it as a JPG, or recreate it from the original as PNG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmy -</p>
<p>Once it&#8217;s encoded in JPG, the damage has been done. Your choices are to leave it as a JPG, or recreate it from the original as PNG.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/why-you-should-use-png-and-not-jpeg/comment-page-1/#comment-6222</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about converting existing JPG files to PNG? Is it worth it, or is it better to just redo them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about converting existing JPG files to PNG? Is it worth it, or is it better to just redo them?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
		<link>http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/why-you-should-use-png-and-not-jpeg/comment-page-1/#comment-6211</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim -

My bad. I must have been looking at an older image file, which never got uploaded. The JPG image is 6141 bytes.

Tim &amp; Teylyn -

I rarely use transparent images in my web site anymore. My pages are white, my image backgrounds are generally white. On the rare occasions I need a transparent image, I rely on the trusty old GIF format.

I&#039;ve never had a problem with a PNG not being visible in my browser (I&#039;ve switched to Firefox, but used IE6 until about six months ago), and no readers have complained about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim -</p>
<p>My bad. I must have been looking at an older image file, which never got uploaded. The JPG image is 6141 bytes.</p>
<p>Tim &amp; Teylyn -</p>
<p>I rarely use transparent images in my web site anymore. My pages are white, my image backgrounds are generally white. On the rare occasions I need a transparent image, I rely on the trusty old GIF format.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never had a problem with a PNG not being visible in my browser (I&#8217;ve switched to Firefox, but used IE6 until about six months ago), and no readers have complained about it.</p>
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		<title>By: teylyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>teylyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>quote Jon: Even the ancient GIF format is usually better than JPG.

Right. Absolutely correct.

And in some cases the ancient GIF format is even better than PNG. Especially when using transparency and tartetting an audience that may still be using Internet Explorer 6. This browser, which is still very common out there, does not fully support transparency in PNGs and has some other issues with the format, too, so sticking to good old GIF gives you a higher probability that your page will show up on their browser the way you intend it to look.

So despite all the wonderful things that you can do with PNGs, there&#039;s a slight risk that your viewer won&#039;t see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>quote Jon: Even the ancient GIF format is usually better than JPG.</p>
<p>Right. Absolutely correct.</p>
<p>And in some cases the ancient GIF format is even better than PNG. Especially when using transparency and tartetting an audience that may still be using Internet Explorer 6. This browser, which is still very common out there, does not fully support transparency in PNGs and has some other issues with the format, too, so sticking to good old GIF gives you a higher probability that your page will show up on their browser the way you intend it to look.</p>
<p>So despite all the wonderful things that you can do with PNGs, there&#8217;s a slight risk that your viewer won&#8217;t see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Mayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Mayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, that&#039;s a dramatic comparison. For some reason, when I right click on the JPG and choose Properties in Firefox it shows the size as 6141 bytes, not the 7789 bytes that you report. Weird.

The one &quot;downside&quot; to PNG that I&#039;m aware of is that IE 6, and earlier, don&#039;t support the transparency feature without some fixes by the webmaster. Lot&#039;s of businesses still use IE 6 for whatever reason, but I still post PNGs without the script to make them look right in that browser. They look a little strange, but I figure that the fix isn&#039;t worth the effort. Nobody has complained yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, that&#8217;s a dramatic comparison. For some reason, when I right click on the JPG and choose Properties in Firefox it shows the size as 6141 bytes, not the 7789 bytes that you report. Weird.</p>
<p>The one &#8220;downside&#8221; to PNG that I&#8217;m aware of is that IE 6, and earlier, don&#8217;t support the transparency feature without some fixes by the webmaster. Lot&#8217;s of businesses still use IE 6 for whatever reason, but I still post PNGs without the script to make them look right in that browser. They look a little strange, but I figure that the fix isn&#8217;t worth the effort. Nobody has complained yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if it&#039;s not &quot;mission critical&quot;, it&#039;s better if the screen captures look good. Since dialog boxes have substantial amounts of text, stick to PNG. Which of these looks better?
&lt;p align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;img title=&quot;dialog captured as JPG&quot; src=&quot;http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/wp-content/img200811/dialog.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;dialog captured as JPG&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;img title=&quot;dialog captured as PNG&quot; src=&quot;http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/wp-content/img200811/dialog.png&quot; alt=&quot;dialog captured as PNG&quot;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;del&gt;The PNG image looks better, and it&#039;s smaller, 6839 vs 7789 Bytes.&lt;/del&gt; Doh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if it&#8217;s not &#8220;mission critical&#8221;, it&#8217;s better if the screen captures look good. Since dialog boxes have substantial amounts of text, stick to PNG. Which of these looks better?</p>
<p align="center"><img title="dialog captured as JPG" src="http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/wp-content/img200811/dialog.jpg" alt="dialog captured as JPG"/></p>
<p align="center"><img title="dialog captured as PNG" src="http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/wp-content/img200811/dialog.png" alt="dialog captured as PNG"/></p>
<p><del>The PNG image looks better, and it&#8217;s smaller, 6839 vs 7789 Bytes.</del> Doh!</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been inconsistent in this regard. Sometimes I use a screen capture program, but in general I&#039;m only posting pictures of dialog boxes, not charts. For my purpose it doesn&#039;t seem mission critical. But I&#039;ll try it and see how it goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been inconsistent in this regard. Sometimes I use a screen capture program, but in general I&#8217;m only posting pictures of dialog boxes, not charts. For my purpose it doesn&#8217;t seem mission critical. But I&#8217;ll try it and see how it goes.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derek -

Whenever I think I know something about a topic, someone comes along and teaches me something else.

The original PNG I &lt;del&gt;swiped&lt;/del&gt; borrowed from Brandy is 23.2 KB (8-bit), and using &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.irfanview.com/&quot; title=&quot;IrfanView - a free and powerful image utility&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IrfanView&lt;/a&gt; (Image menu &gt; Decrease Color Depth) I converted it to 13.8 KB (4-bit), and I&#039;ve replaced the original by the smaller file. From now on I should process all of my image files. I just checked and IrfanView includes color depth among its batch process operations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derek -</p>
<p>Whenever I think I know something about a topic, someone comes along and teaches me something else.</p>
<p>The original PNG I <del>swiped</del> borrowed from Brandy is 23.2 KB (8-bit), and using <a href="http://www.irfanview.com/" title="IrfanView - a free and powerful image utility" rel="nofollow">IrfanView</a> (Image menu > Decrease Color Depth) I converted it to 13.8 KB (4-bit), and I&#8217;ve replaced the original by the smaller file. From now on I should process all of my image files. I just checked and IrfanView includes color depth among its batch process operations.</p>
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