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		<title>By: Vishal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vishal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot.
Depending on the message to be given, in the bar chart, I may put &quot;Others&quot; in a single bar and split that bar by cluster. Helps when individual data is too small to be noticed otherwise and also the other bars are scaled appropriately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot.<br />
Depending on the message to be given, in the bar chart, I may put &#8220;Others&#8221; in a single bar and split that bar by cluster. Helps when individual data is too small to be noticed otherwise and also the other bars are scaled appropriately.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff - You&#039;re barking up the wrong tree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff &#8211; You&#8217;re barking up the wrong tree.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff weir</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff weir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon: My cat ate my mouse, so I couldn&#039;t vote in the original poll. Can you amend the above graphs accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon: My cat ate my mouse, so I couldn&#8217;t vote in the original poll. Can you amend the above graphs accordingly.</p>
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		<title>By: John Walkenbach</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Walkenbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for setting me straight, Naomi. I didn&#039;t realize the histograms don&#039;t have gaps between the columns. I did a Google image search for &#039;histogram&#039; and just about every example had no gaps. The exceptions are the histograms generated by the Analysis Toolpak add-in.

I&#039;ll fix those histograms in the 2007 editions. For now, I&#039;ll just blame my tech editor for not catching it. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for setting me straight, Naomi. I didn&#8217;t realize the histograms don&#8217;t have gaps between the columns. I did a Google image search for &#8216;histogram&#8217; and just about every example had no gaps. The exceptions are the histograms generated by the Analysis Toolpak add-in.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll fix those histograms in the 2007 editions. For now, I&#8217;ll just blame my tech editor for not catching it. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From &quot;The Grammar of Graphics&quot;, earlier in the same paragraph that Naomi cites:

&lt;em&gt;This book shuns chart typologies.&lt;/em&gt;

Wow, that&#039;s good. I&#039;ll have to get a copy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From &#8220;The Grammar of Graphics&#8221;, earlier in the same paragraph that Naomi cites:</p>
<p><em>This book shuns chart typologies.</em></p>
<p>Wow, that&#8217;s good. I&#8217;ll have to get a copy.</p>
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		<title>By: Naomi B. Robbins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naomi B. Robbins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To quote Leland Wilkinson in The Grammar of Graphics (page 2) &quot;A histogram is not a bar chart.&quot; To start, a bar chart has a categorical horizontal axis while a histogram has a binned quantitative axis. Therefore, there should be no spaces between the bars.  I have never seen a pseudo- third dimension in a histogram other than in Excel Charts. I&#039;ll send more details in an email after I meet some deadlines. If you are in a hurry I suggest looking at the Grammar of Graphics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To quote Leland Wilkinson in The Grammar of Graphics (page 2) &#8220;A histogram is not a bar chart.&#8221; To start, a bar chart has a categorical horizontal axis while a histogram has a binned quantitative axis. Therefore, there should be no spaces between the bars.  I have never seen a pseudo- third dimension in a histogram other than in Excel Charts. I&#8217;ll send more details in an email after I meet some deadlines. If you are in a hurry I suggest looking at the Grammar of Graphics.</p>
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		<title>By: John Walkenbach</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Walkenbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My plan worked! When I created that chart, I knew it was not the best way to present the data, but I did it anyway. I was actually hoping that it would get some attention from the PTS Blog. 

If I were presenting this data for a serious audience, I would have used a bar chart. 

Naomi... if you have some time, please send me an email with your thoughts on histograms. I&#039;m revising the books right now and this is a good time make changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My plan worked! When I created that chart, I knew it was not the best way to present the data, but I did it anyway. I was actually hoping that it would get some attention from the PTS Blog. </p>
<p>If I were presenting this data for a serious audience, I would have used a bar chart. </p>
<p>Naomi&#8230; if you have some time, please send me an email with your thoughts on histograms. I&#8217;m revising the books right now and this is a good time make changes.</p>
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		<title>By: Naomi B. Robbins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naomi B. Robbins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points, Jon.  I highly recommend John Walkenbach&#039;s book but dislike his treatment of histograms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points, Jon.  I highly recommend John Walkenbach&#8217;s book but dislike his treatment of histograms.</p>
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