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		<title>By: Steve Kearley</title>
		<link>http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/the-problem-with-marimekkos/comment-page-1/#comment-11902</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Kearley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do appreciate you taking the time to look.  I was thinking about the multiple line charts or perhaps, multiple lines representing a six month trend, for instance.  The lines would themselves stacked over one another might show the trends of the averages.

Thanks again for the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do appreciate you taking the time to look.  I was thinking about the multiple line charts or perhaps, multiple lines representing a six month trend, for instance.  The lines would themselves stacked over one another might show the trends of the averages.</p>
<p>Thanks again for the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve -

I&#039;m not sure offhand how I&#039;d show your data. The grid already takes up two dimensions, and I don&#039;t know how to add the values to the grid. One could break it into a lot of individual line charts, or maybe a stacked area chart, where each series is the collections for expenses incurred in a given month, plotted against the month the expenses were paid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve -</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure offhand how I&#8217;d show your data. The grid already takes up two dimensions, and I don&#8217;t know how to add the values to the grid. One could break it into a lot of individual line charts, or maybe a stacked area chart, where each series is the collections for expenses incurred in a given month, plotted against the month the expenses were paid.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Kearley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Kearley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully, this link will work.  This is a replication of a typical lag table I deal with.  There are 3 years worth of data, (I cut it down from 6 years) arranged by Month of Service against the Month of Payment.  Tables like these are often used for calculating IBNR, incurred-but-not-reported expenses.

The sheet is in 3 sections at this point.  The first section shows dollars.  Then I do a calculation to get a percentage of completion.  Finally, I have a calculation to derive a 6 month average.  This allows me to see if the specific month of payment, say the first month, is going up or down.

Thought about using one of these dynamic type charges where I could scroll through showing how the percentages change over a 12-months at a time.  I have used an area chargt that shows trends over time--again it will be more useful if I could roll the selected 12 months by moving a spinner.  The more manual part that throws me initially is having the data that needs to be the source arranged diagonally. Not to mention whether this is the best choice of chart.  Of course, this is one worksheet of several types of lags that have to be analyzed, but, back to my main question:  what chart or charts might help depict trends better.  The second part of the analysis I am doing is trying to show the impact of say a change in percentages from Jan-Jun and what that will do to cash flows.  That&#039;s really the main point--but again, manual.

Sorry for the long post (I&#039;ve been at this for a while now!)

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pqZR0t7LxFYKoVsTUTf7tUA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully, this link will work.  This is a replication of a typical lag table I deal with.  There are 3 years worth of data, (I cut it down from 6 years) arranged by Month of Service against the Month of Payment.  Tables like these are often used for calculating IBNR, incurred-but-not-reported expenses.</p>
<p>The sheet is in 3 sections at this point.  The first section shows dollars.  Then I do a calculation to get a percentage of completion.  Finally, I have a calculation to derive a 6 month average.  This allows me to see if the specific month of payment, say the first month, is going up or down.</p>
<p>Thought about using one of these dynamic type charges where I could scroll through showing how the percentages change over a 12-months at a time.  I have used an area chargt that shows trends over time&#8211;again it will be more useful if I could roll the selected 12 months by moving a spinner.  The more manual part that throws me initially is having the data that needs to be the source arranged diagonally. Not to mention whether this is the best choice of chart.  Of course, this is one worksheet of several types of lags that have to be analyzed, but, back to my main question:  what chart or charts might help depict trends better.  The second part of the analysis I am doing is trying to show the impact of say a change in percentages from Jan-Jun and what that will do to cash flows.  That&#8217;s really the main point&#8211;but again, manual.</p>
<p>Sorry for the long post (I&#8217;ve been at this for a while now!)</p>
<p><a href="http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pqZR0t7LxFYKoVsTUTf7tUA" rel="nofollow">http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pqZR0t7LxFYKoVsTUTf7tUA</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
		<link>http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/the-problem-with-marimekkos/comment-page-1/#comment-11834</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve -

Could you post a link to an example of such a table?</description>
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<p>Could you post a link to an example of such a table?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Kearley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Kearley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if these types of charts would be useful for depicting variations in a claims lag or percentage-of-completion table.  Those tables, to me, present a challenge not only in spotting trends, but depicting them for management to see.  Any ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if these types of charts would be useful for depicting variations in a claims lag or percentage-of-completion table.  Those tables, to me, present a challenge not only in spotting trends, but depicting them for management to see.  Any ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: Rod McInnis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod McInnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 23:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jon.  I learn something new ever day.

These really are just rectangular pie charts.  Enough said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jon.  I learn something new ever day.</p>
<p>These really are just rectangular pie charts.  Enough said.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rod -

From &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marimekko&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;em&gt;Marimekko is a Finnish company based in Helsinki that has made important contributions to fashion, especially in the 1960s and 1970s. They are particularly noted for brightly-colored printed fabrics and simple styles. . . . Marimekko was founded in 1951 by Armi and Viljo Ratia, when Armi asked some artist friends to apply their graphic designs to textiles.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rod -</p>
<p>From <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marimekko" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a>:</p>
<p><em>Marimekko is a Finnish company based in Helsinki that has made important contributions to fashion, especially in the 1960s and 1970s. They are particularly noted for brightly-colored printed fabrics and simple styles. . . . Marimekko was founded in 1951 by Armi and Viljo Ratia, when Armi asked some artist friends to apply their graphic designs to textiles.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Hadley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hadley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jon - agreed, static mosaic charts are generally hard to follow.  That&#039;s why most research focusses on their interactive use in combination with simpler bar charts etc.  Unfortunately, it&#039;s hard to learn how to use them to their best advantage without apprenticing yourself to an expert and looking over their shoulder while they work.  We really need to do better at creating more screencasts and videos to show how to use these powerful but intimidating tools.

I wonder how long they have been used in marketing.  The canonical reference in statistics is 
J. A. Hartigan and B. Kleiner. Mosaics for contingency tables. In Computer Science and Statistics: Proceedings of the 13th Symposium on the Interface, pages 268–273, Fairfax Station, VA, 1981. Interface Foundation of North America, Inc.  I suspect this is probably earlier than marimekko plots, because it&#039;s certainly before the ready availability of colour graphics.

I don&#039;t point this out in order to claim primacy for statistics, but unless related disciplines talk to each other then people up reinventing the wheel and making unnecessary mistakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jon &#8211; agreed, static mosaic charts are generally hard to follow.  That&#8217;s why most research focusses on their interactive use in combination with simpler bar charts etc.  Unfortunately, it&#8217;s hard to learn how to use them to their best advantage without apprenticing yourself to an expert and looking over their shoulder while they work.  We really need to do better at creating more screencasts and videos to show how to use these powerful but intimidating tools.</p>
<p>I wonder how long they have been used in marketing.  The canonical reference in statistics is<br />
J. A. Hartigan and B. Kleiner. Mosaics for contingency tables. In Computer Science and Statistics: Proceedings of the 13th Symposium on the Interface, pages 268–273, Fairfax Station, VA, 1981. Interface Foundation of North America, Inc.  I suspect this is probably earlier than marimekko plots, because it&#8217;s certainly before the ready availability of colour graphics.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t point this out in order to claim primacy for statistics, but unless related disciplines talk to each other then people up reinventing the wheel and making unnecessary mistakes.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod McInnis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod McInnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see Marimekko used quite frequently to demonstrate categorized market share now that I work for a consumer focused company.  I spent years working for manufacturers &amp; tech companies and I never saw one at any of them.  Stephen Few&#039;s shoe industry example if fairly typical.

So where did they name Marimekko come from anyway?  I have always wondered but could not find the origin quickly online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see Marimekko used quite frequently to demonstrate categorized market share now that I work for a consumer focused company.  I spent years working for manufacturers &amp; tech companies and I never saw one at any of them.  Stephen Few&#8217;s shoe industry example if fairly typical.</p>
<p>So where did they name Marimekko come from anyway?  I have always wondered but could not find the origin quickly online.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colin -

&quot;. . . why they find them more effective . . .&quot;

I&#039;ve had this discussion with a marketing guy. He wanted mekkos, nothing less. He didn&#039;t care that bar charts were easy to make and easy to read. He didn&#039;t care that mekkos were hard to make and easy to break, or that they were easily misinterpreted. He Had-To-Have Marimekkos.

So I made him a template with a big old Marimekko chart, using a technique much more tedious and fragile than the one I posted last week. He loved it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colin -</p>
<p>&#8220;. . . why they find them more effective . . .&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had this discussion with a marketing guy. He wanted mekkos, nothing less. He didn&#8217;t care that bar charts were easy to make and easy to read. He didn&#8217;t care that mekkos were hard to make and easy to break, or that they were easily misinterpreted. He Had-To-Have Marimekkos.</p>
<p>So I made him a template with a big old Marimekko chart, using a technique much more tedious and fragile than the one I posted last week. He loved it.</p>
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