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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
		<link>http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/ten-chart-design-principles-guest-post/comment-page-1/#comment-172518</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 13:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ezra -

There has been a great deal of work to determine what works best  for visual display of information. Jacques Bertin and Bill Cleveland did much of this work. If you want a well written guide of visual information design which incorporates this work, check out any of Stephen Few&#039;s books.

Why do graphic designers rely so heavily on pie charts? People are familiar with the ubiquitous pie chart: they learn about pies early in school and they see pies so frequently in graphic designs. They are so familiar that they don&#039;t realize that they are being shortchanged. But people expect pie charts, so graphic designers provide them. Just like people expect shiny multidimensional graphics in their dashboards, so the less-informed dashboard software designers keep building more ridiculous features into their products.

The term &quot;panel chart&quot; was coined to avoid potential trademark issues with the related term &quot;trellis chart&quot;. These issues never materialized, but the two terms are both used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ezra -</p>
<p>There has been a great deal of work to determine what works best  for visual display of information. Jacques Bertin and Bill Cleveland did much of this work. If you want a well written guide of visual information design which incorporates this work, check out any of Stephen Few&#8217;s books.</p>
<p>Why do graphic designers rely so heavily on pie charts? People are familiar with the ubiquitous pie chart: they learn about pies early in school and they see pies so frequently in graphic designs. They are so familiar that they don&#8217;t realize that they are being shortchanged. But people expect pie charts, so graphic designers provide them. Just like people expect shiny multidimensional graphics in their dashboards, so the less-informed dashboard software designers keep building more ridiculous features into their products.</p>
<p>The term &#8220;panel chart&#8221; was coined to avoid potential trademark issues with the related term &#8220;trellis chart&#8221;. These issues never materialized, but the two terms are both used.</p>
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		<title>By: ezra abrams</title>
		<link>http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/ten-chart-design-principles-guest-post/comment-page-1/#comment-172394</link>
		<dc:creator>ezra abrams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 03:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where is the 
DATA
that shows that any of these ideas are more then opinions ?
I&#039;m not exactly sure what the data would look like, but it would be something like splitting a group of random people into x groups, and showing them x versions of the same data, and then measuring how long it took people to grasp the point in the data.
without such an experiment, all these opinions are just that - and opinions don&#039;t get better with credentials (MVP/author) or firmness of expression.

something to thinkg about: following the overrated tufte, people have abjured pie charts. Yet graphic designers - people whoose paycheck depends on graphics - often use pie charts. maybe they know something the experts don&#039;t know

In any event, without the great work of people like peltier, it would be impossible to do decent charts in excel
PS: the panel chart is more commonly called a trellis plot ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where is the<br />
DATA<br />
that shows that any of these ideas are more then opinions ?<br />
I&#8217;m not exactly sure what the data would look like, but it would be something like splitting a group of random people into x groups, and showing them x versions of the same data, and then measuring how long it took people to grasp the point in the data.<br />
without such an experiment, all these opinions are just that &#8211; and opinions don&#8217;t get better with credentials (MVP/author) or firmness of expression.</p>
<p>something to thinkg about: following the overrated tufte, people have abjured pie charts. Yet graphic designers &#8211; people whoose paycheck depends on graphics &#8211; often use pie charts. maybe they know something the experts don&#8217;t know</p>
<p>In any event, without the great work of people like peltier, it would be impossible to do decent charts in excel<br />
PS: the panel chart is more commonly called a trellis plot ??</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 05:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bonnie -

Instead of making two charts that must perfectly line up, make one chart, with all series as columns, and one by one change the ones you want as lines into lines:

ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(3).ChartType = xlLineMarkers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bonnie -</p>
<p>Instead of making two charts that must perfectly line up, make one chart, with all series as columns, and one by one change the ones you want as lines into lines:</p>
<p>ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(3).ChartType = xlLineMarkers</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 20:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HELP!!!

I have a macro that creates 3 charts. One is a simple bar chart and the other is actually two I&#039;ve combined so that I have a bar and line graph plotted together. My problem is that the placement of the charts fluctuates each time I run the macro. Sometimes the alignment is just right and at other times it seems a location artifact leaves residual information in the macro and has them all over the page.

    I&#039;m new at this and have been looking for ways to clear or reset the chart location. Any help would be much appreciated. Code is below:

    Sub NBImac()

    &#039; Macro1 Macro
    &#039; CHART 1

    &#039;

    &#039;MSChart1.ToDefaults
    ActiveSheet.Shapes.AddChart.Select
    ActiveChart.SetSourceData Source:=Range(&quot;&#039;NBI&#039;!$A$3:$C$4&quot;)
    ActiveChart.ChartType = xlColumnClustered
    ActiveChart.PlotBy = xlRows


    &#039;ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).Select
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MinimumScale = 3.3
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MinimumScale = 1
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MaximumScale = 4.3
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MaximumScale = 5
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MajorUnit = 0.1
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MajorUnit = 0.5
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).Select
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(1).Name = &quot;=&quot;&quot;Newark Beth Israel-Psychiatry Mean&quot;&quot;&quot;
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(2).Name = &quot;=&quot;&quot;NYCOM Class-Psychiatry Mean&quot;&quot;&quot;
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(2).XValues = &quot;={2009,2010,2011}&quot;
    ActiveChart.Legend.Select
    Selection.Position = xlTop
    ActiveChart.SetElement (msoElementChartTitleAboveChart)
    ActiveChart.ChartTitle.Select
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(1).Select
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(1).Interior.ColorIndex = 41
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(2).Select
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(2).Interior.ColorIndex = 1
    ActiveChart.ChartTitle.Text = &quot;Newark Beth Israel Recommend This Rotation&quot;
    ActiveChart.ChartArea.Select
    ActiveChart.Location Where:=xlLocationAsObject, Name:=&quot;NBIChart&quot;

    ActiveSheet.Shapes(ActiveSheet.Shapes.Count).IncrementLeft -150
    ActiveSheet.Shapes(ActiveSheet.Shapes.Count).IncrementTop -50
    ActiveSheet.Shapes(ActiveSheet.Shapes.Count).Height = 250




    &#039; CHART 2

    &#039;

    &#039;
    ActiveSheet.Shapes.AddChart.Select
    ActiveChart.SetSourceData Source:=Range(&quot;&#039;NBI&#039;!$A$7:$C$11&quot;)
    ActiveChart.ChartType = xlColumnClustered
    ActiveChart.PlotBy = xlRows

    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).Select
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MinimumScale = 0
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MinimumScale = 1
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MaximumScale = 5
    Selection.TickLabels.NumberFormat = &quot;@&quot;
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(1).Name = &quot;=&quot;&quot;meaningfully engaged&quot;&quot;&quot;
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(2).Name = &quot;=&quot;&quot;Physicians committed to teaching&quot;&quot;&quot;
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(3).Name = &quot;=&quot;&quot;DME Responsive&quot;&quot;&quot;
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(4).Name = &quot;=&quot;&quot;Adequate supervision and feedback&quot;&quot;&quot;
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(5).Name = _
    &quot;=&quot;&quot;Perform procedures relevent to level of training&quot;&quot;&quot;
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(5).XValues = &quot;={2009,2010,2011}&quot;
    ActiveChart.Legend.Select
    Selection.Height = 151.994
    Selection.Height = 189.994
    ActiveChart.SetElement (msoElementChartTitleAboveChart)
    ActiveChart.ChartTitle.Text = &quot;Newark Beth Israel (color bars)&quot;
    Range(&quot;F10&quot;).Select


    ActiveSheet.Shapes(ActiveSheet.Shapes.Count).IncrementLeft -150
    ActiveSheet.Shapes(ActiveSheet.Shapes.Count).IncrementTop 239
    ActiveSheet.Shapes(ActiveSheet.Shapes.Count).Height = 275


    ActiveSheet.ChartObjects(2).Chart.PlotArea.Height = 200



    ActiveSheet.ChartObjects(2).Activate
    ActiveChart.PlotArea.Select
    With Selection
    .Top = 150
    .Height = 200
    End With
    ActiveSheet.ChartObjects(2).Activate
    ActiveChart.Legend.Select
    With Selection
    .Top = 170
    .Height = 212
    End With


    &#039; CHART 3 - Linegraph

    &#039;
    Sheets(&quot;NBI&quot;).Select
    Range(&quot;A14:A30&quot;).Select
    ActiveSheet.Shapes.AddChart.Select
    ActiveChart.ChartStyle = 1
    ActiveChart.SetSourceData Source:=Range(&quot;&#039;NBI&#039;!$A$14:$A$30&quot;)
    ActiveChart.ChartType = xlLineMarkers
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).Select

    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MinimumScale = 3.6
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MinimumScale = 1
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MaximumScale = 4.3
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MaximumScale = 5
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MajorUnit = 0.1
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MajorUnit = 0.5
    ActiveChart.Legend.Select
    ActiveChart.Legend.Select
    Selection.Position = xlTop
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(1).Name = &quot;=&quot;&quot;NYCOM class mean &quot;&quot;&quot;
    ActiveChart.Location Where:=xlLocationAsObject, Name:=&quot;NBIChart&quot;

    ActiveChart.ChartArea.Select
    With Selection.Format.Fill
    .Visible = msoTrue
    .ForeColor.ObjectThemeColor = msoThemeColorBackground2
    .ForeColor.TintAndShade = 1
    .Transparency = 1
    End With
    ActiveChart.PlotArea.Select
    With Selection.Format.Fill
    .Visible = msoTrue
    .ForeColor.ObjectThemeColor = msoThemeColorBackground2
    .ForeColor.TintAndShade = 1
    .Transparency = 1
    End With
    ActiveChart.ChartTitle.Select
    Selection.Delete
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlCategory).Select
    Selection.Delete
    ActiveSheet.ChartObjects.Select
    Selection.Width = 190
    Selection.Height = 209
    Selection.Left = 72
    Selection.Top = 400
    ActiveChart.SetElement (msoElementPrimaryValueAxisNone)
    ActiveChart.SetElement (msoElementPrimaryValueGridLinesNone)
    ActiveChart.ChartArea.Border.LineStyle = xlNone


    &#039;


    End Sub</description>
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<p>I have a macro that creates 3 charts. One is a simple bar chart and the other is actually two I&#8217;ve combined so that I have a bar and line graph plotted together. My problem is that the placement of the charts fluctuates each time I run the macro. Sometimes the alignment is just right and at other times it seems a location artifact leaves residual information in the macro and has them all over the page.</p>
<p>    I&#8217;m new at this and have been looking for ways to clear or reset the chart location. Any help would be much appreciated. Code is below:</p>
<p>    Sub NBImac()</p>
<p>    &#8216; Macro1 Macro<br />
    &#8216; CHART 1</p>
<p>    &#8216;</p>
<p>    &#8216;MSChart1.ToDefaults<br />
    ActiveSheet.Shapes.AddChart.Select<br />
    ActiveChart.SetSourceData Source:=Range(&#8220;&#8216;NBI&#8217;!$A$3:$C$4&#8243;)<br />
    ActiveChart.ChartType = xlColumnClustered<br />
    ActiveChart.PlotBy = xlRows</p>
<p>    &#8216;ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).Select<br />
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MinimumScale = 3.3<br />
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MinimumScale = 1<br />
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MaximumScale = 4.3<br />
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MaximumScale = 5<br />
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MajorUnit = 0.1<br />
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MajorUnit = 0.5<br />
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).Select<br />
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(1).Name = &#8220;=&#8221;"Newark Beth Israel-Psychiatry Mean&#8221;"&#8221;<br />
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(2).Name = &#8220;=&#8221;"NYCOM Class-Psychiatry Mean&#8221;"&#8221;<br />
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(2).XValues = &#8220;={2009,2010,2011}&#8221;<br />
    ActiveChart.Legend.Select<br />
    Selection.Position = xlTop<br />
    ActiveChart.SetElement (msoElementChartTitleAboveChart)<br />
    ActiveChart.ChartTitle.Select<br />
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(1).Select<br />
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(1).Interior.ColorIndex = 41<br />
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(2).Select<br />
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(2).Interior.ColorIndex = 1<br />
    ActiveChart.ChartTitle.Text = &#8220;Newark Beth Israel Recommend This Rotation&#8221;<br />
    ActiveChart.ChartArea.Select<br />
    ActiveChart.Location Where:=xlLocationAsObject, Name:=&#8221;NBIChart&#8221;</p>
<p>    ActiveSheet.Shapes(ActiveSheet.Shapes.Count).IncrementLeft -150<br />
    ActiveSheet.Shapes(ActiveSheet.Shapes.Count).IncrementTop -50<br />
    ActiveSheet.Shapes(ActiveSheet.Shapes.Count).Height = 250</p>
<p>    &#8216; CHART 2</p>
<p>    &#8216;</p>
<p>    &#8216;<br />
    ActiveSheet.Shapes.AddChart.Select<br />
    ActiveChart.SetSourceData Source:=Range(&#8220;&#8216;NBI&#8217;!$A$7:$C$11&#8243;)<br />
    ActiveChart.ChartType = xlColumnClustered<br />
    ActiveChart.PlotBy = xlRows</p>
<p>    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).Select<br />
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MinimumScale = 0<br />
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MinimumScale = 1<br />
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MaximumScale = 5<br />
    Selection.TickLabels.NumberFormat = &#8220;@&#8221;<br />
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(1).Name = &#8220;=&#8221;"meaningfully engaged&#8221;"&#8221;<br />
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(2).Name = &#8220;=&#8221;"Physicians committed to teaching&#8221;"&#8221;<br />
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(3).Name = &#8220;=&#8221;"DME Responsive&#8221;"&#8221;<br />
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(4).Name = &#8220;=&#8221;"Adequate supervision and feedback&#8221;"&#8221;<br />
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(5).Name = _<br />
    &#8220;=&#8221;"Perform procedures relevent to level of training&#8221;"&#8221;<br />
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(5).XValues = &#8220;={2009,2010,2011}&#8221;<br />
    ActiveChart.Legend.Select<br />
    Selection.Height = 151.994<br />
    Selection.Height = 189.994<br />
    ActiveChart.SetElement (msoElementChartTitleAboveChart)<br />
    ActiveChart.ChartTitle.Text = &#8220;Newark Beth Israel (color bars)&#8221;<br />
    Range(&#8220;F10&#8243;).Select</p>
<p>    ActiveSheet.Shapes(ActiveSheet.Shapes.Count).IncrementLeft -150<br />
    ActiveSheet.Shapes(ActiveSheet.Shapes.Count).IncrementTop 239<br />
    ActiveSheet.Shapes(ActiveSheet.Shapes.Count).Height = 275</p>
<p>    ActiveSheet.ChartObjects(2).Chart.PlotArea.Height = 200</p>
<p>    ActiveSheet.ChartObjects(2).Activate<br />
    ActiveChart.PlotArea.Select<br />
    With Selection<br />
    .Top = 150<br />
    .Height = 200<br />
    End With<br />
    ActiveSheet.ChartObjects(2).Activate<br />
    ActiveChart.Legend.Select<br />
    With Selection<br />
    .Top = 170<br />
    .Height = 212<br />
    End With</p>
<p>    &#8216; CHART 3 &#8211; Linegraph</p>
<p>    &#8216;<br />
    Sheets(&#8220;NBI&#8221;).Select<br />
    Range(&#8220;A14:A30&#8243;).Select<br />
    ActiveSheet.Shapes.AddChart.Select<br />
    ActiveChart.ChartStyle = 1<br />
    ActiveChart.SetSourceData Source:=Range(&#8220;&#8216;NBI&#8217;!$A$14:$A$30&#8243;)<br />
    ActiveChart.ChartType = xlLineMarkers<br />
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).Select</p>
<p>    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MinimumScale = 3.6<br />
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MinimumScale = 1<br />
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MaximumScale = 4.3<br />
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MaximumScale = 5<br />
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MajorUnit = 0.1<br />
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlValue).MajorUnit = 0.5<br />
    ActiveChart.Legend.Select<br />
    ActiveChart.Legend.Select<br />
    Selection.Position = xlTop<br />
    ActiveChart.SeriesCollection(1).Name = &#8220;=&#8221;"NYCOM class mean &#8220;&#8221;"<br />
    ActiveChart.Location Where:=xlLocationAsObject, Name:=&#8221;NBIChart&#8221;</p>
<p>    ActiveChart.ChartArea.Select<br />
    With Selection.Format.Fill<br />
    .Visible = msoTrue<br />
    .ForeColor.ObjectThemeColor = msoThemeColorBackground2<br />
    .ForeColor.TintAndShade = 1<br />
    .Transparency = 1<br />
    End With<br />
    ActiveChart.PlotArea.Select<br />
    With Selection.Format.Fill<br />
    .Visible = msoTrue<br />
    .ForeColor.ObjectThemeColor = msoThemeColorBackground2<br />
    .ForeColor.TintAndShade = 1<br />
    .Transparency = 1<br />
    End With<br />
    ActiveChart.ChartTitle.Select<br />
    Selection.Delete<br />
    ActiveChart.Axes(xlCategory).Select<br />
    Selection.Delete<br />
    ActiveSheet.ChartObjects.Select<br />
    Selection.Width = 190<br />
    Selection.Height = 209<br />
    Selection.Left = 72<br />
    Selection.Top = 400<br />
    ActiveChart.SetElement (msoElementPrimaryValueAxisNone)<br />
    ActiveChart.SetElement (msoElementPrimaryValueGridLinesNone)<br />
    ActiveChart.ChartArea.Border.LineStyle = xlNone</p>
<p>    &#8216;</p>
<p>    End Sub</p>
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