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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
		<link>http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/physics-lesson/comment-page-1/#comment-1707</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug - I thought I had seen the About page once before while reading your blog. These templates are so detailed and convoluted, it&#039;s hard to make them do quite what you want. I guess we all need a couple new acronyms: CSS and PHP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug &#8211; I thought I had seen the About page once before while reading your blog. These templates are so detailed and convoluted, it&#8217;s hard to make them do quite what you want. I guess we all need a couple new acronyms: CSS and PHP.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Jenkins</title>
		<link>http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/physics-lesson/comment-page-1/#comment-1706</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the plug Jon (and in the competition thread!)

You&#039;re not blind, I can&#039;t find the about page on the curent layout either.  I&#039;ll probably switch to a different design when I get time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the plug Jon (and in the competition thread!)</p>
<p>You&#8217;re not blind, I can&#8217;t find the about page on the curent layout either.  I&#8217;ll probably switch to a different design when I get time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
		<link>http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/physics-lesson/comment-page-1/#comment-1676</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should point out Doug&#039;s blog, &lt;a href=&quot;http://newtonexcelbach.wordpress.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Newton Excel Bach&lt;/a&gt;, which looks at scientific and engineering applications of Excel.

Doug - Maybe I&#039;ve become blind, but I couldn&#039;t find the &quot;about&quot; page on your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should point out Doug&#8217;s blog, <a href="http://newtonexcelbach.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">Newton Excel Bach</a>, which looks at scientific and engineering applications of Excel.</p>
<p>Doug &#8211; Maybe I&#8217;ve become blind, but I couldn&#8217;t find the &#8220;about&#8221; page on your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
		<link>http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/physics-lesson/comment-page-1/#comment-1673</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug - Thanks for your comment. That&#039;s a good point. Maybe people hear the horror stories about statistics done in spreadsheets, or the $100MM errors that bankrupt companies. Or whatever.

My first engineering-based programming I did was to reconstruct a model that took input from the user (temperature etc.), looked up materials parameters from a database (an Excel worksheet in my case), and spit out predicted values for mechanical behavior. I wrote the program in the old XLM language to automate Solver, because we had a value the model output and we needed the corresponding input. Manually it took two days to produce a dozen output values, and the program did it in a couple minutes. So it was a big deal. Up until I wrote the program, I had to submit my conditions to the engineers in another division and wait for them to process the values for me. 

My colleague at the division noticed I&#039;d stopped asking them for calculations and wondered how I got mine. I sheepishly admitted it was &quot;only&quot; an Excel solution. I was surprised to learn that they used Excel all the time for engineering work, because I&#039;d envisioned large mainframes (Crays, really) to do the work. They liked my system and implemented it themselves. My first VBA project was to upgrade my XLM materials properties program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug &#8211; Thanks for your comment. That&#8217;s a good point. Maybe people hear the horror stories about statistics done in spreadsheets, or the $100MM errors that bankrupt companies. Or whatever.</p>
<p>My first engineering-based programming I did was to reconstruct a model that took input from the user (temperature etc.), looked up materials parameters from a database (an Excel worksheet in my case), and spit out predicted values for mechanical behavior. I wrote the program in the old XLM language to automate Solver, because we had a value the model output and we needed the corresponding input. Manually it took two days to produce a dozen output values, and the program did it in a couple minutes. So it was a big deal. Up until I wrote the program, I had to submit my conditions to the engineers in another division and wait for them to process the values for me. </p>
<p>My colleague at the division noticed I&#8217;d stopped asking them for calculations and wondered how I got mine. I sheepishly admitted it was &#8220;only&#8221; an Excel solution. I was surprised to learn that they used Excel all the time for engineering work, because I&#8217;d envisioned large mainframes (Crays, really) to do the work. They liked my system and implemented it themselves. My first VBA project was to upgrade my XLM materials properties program.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Jenkins</title>
		<link>http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/physics-lesson/comment-page-1/#comment-1672</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon - one thing that bugs me is that schools and universities seem to have an aversion to using spreadsheets for science and maths.  It&#039;s almost like they thing a spreadsheet is for financial analysis and nothing else.

I think your model is an excellent introduction to the sorts of things you can do with spreadsheets in science education.  Also I totally agree with your &quot;keep it simple&quot; approach, whilst not forgetting the basics of good design; i.e separating data, analysis, and output.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon &#8211; one thing that bugs me is that schools and universities seem to have an aversion to using spreadsheets for science and maths.  It&#8217;s almost like they thing a spreadsheet is for financial analysis and nothing else.</p>
<p>I think your model is an excellent introduction to the sorts of things you can do with spreadsheets in science education.  Also I totally agree with your &#8220;keep it simple&#8221; approach, whilst not forgetting the basics of good design; i.e separating data, analysis, and output.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
		<link>http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/physics-lesson/comment-page-1/#comment-1644</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dermot - That&#039;s a viable alternative. I don&#039;t know what&#039;s less effort. The basic workbook took me 20 minutes to put together. I thought of NA() in the chart source data before I thought of dynamic chart source ranges. I suspect the dynamic names would have taken me a similar length of time.

I think the concept of not plotting #N/A might be somewhat easier for an inexperienced Excel user than the concept of a dynamic range name based on worksheet ranges. A &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oaltd.co.uk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stephen Bullen&lt;/a&gt;-type &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oaltd.co.uk/DLCount/DLCount.asp?file=ChtFrmla.zip&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ChtFrmla defined name&lt;/a&gt; is conceptually much more difficult to understand, technically more difficult to construct, and much harder to debug and maintain than a worksheet-based name.

The model as I&#039;ve fashioned it would be more robust, if someone decided to insert a copy of the model worksheet into the same workbook. If the dynamic names were defined on a workbook level, the copied chart would refer to the name defined on the original sheet, not on the copied sheet. If the dynamic names were defined on a worksheet level, the chart on the copied sheet would contain hard-coded values.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dermot &#8211; That&#8217;s a viable alternative. I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s less effort. The basic workbook took me 20 minutes to put together. I thought of NA() in the chart source data before I thought of dynamic chart source ranges. I suspect the dynamic names would have taken me a similar length of time.</p>
<p>I think the concept of not plotting #N/A might be somewhat easier for an inexperienced Excel user than the concept of a dynamic range name based on worksheet ranges. A <a href="http://www.oaltd.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">Stephen Bullen</a>-type <a href="http://www.oaltd.co.uk/DLCount/DLCount.asp?file=ChtFrmla.zip" rel="nofollow">ChtFrmla defined name</a> is conceptually much more difficult to understand, technically more difficult to construct, and much harder to debug and maintain than a worksheet-based name.</p>
<p>The model as I&#8217;ve fashioned it would be more robust, if someone decided to insert a copy of the model worksheet into the same workbook. If the dynamic names were defined on a workbook level, the copied chart would refer to the name defined on the original sheet, not on the copied sheet. If the dynamic names were defined on a worksheet level, the chart on the copied sheet would contain hard-coded values.</p>
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		<title>By: dermot</title>
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		<dc:creator>dermot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, it might be slightly less effort to create dynamic ranges for the chart series, and get them to use only the number of valid time rows.That would remove the need to police (and format) the output area for invalid times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, it might be slightly less effort to create dynamic ranges for the chart series, and get them to use only the number of valid time rows.That would remove the need to police (and format) the output area for invalid times.</p>
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