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		<title>By: derek</title>
		<link>http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/date-axis-with-centered-years/comment-page-1/#comment-8396</link>
		<dc:creator>derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My data layout was &lt;a href=&quot;http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r264/del_c/infographics/graphdata.png&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;like this&lt;/a&gt;. Apologies for the eccentric method of presenting the info, as I&#039;m between ISPs at the moment. Does anyone know of a file hosting service that&#039;s as convenient for spreadsheets as flickr, photobucket et al. are for pictures?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My data layout was <a href="http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r264/del_c/infographics/graphdata.png" rel="nofollow">like this</a>. Apologies for the eccentric method of presenting the info, as I&#8217;m between ISPs at the moment. Does anyone know of a file hosting service that&#8217;s as convenient for spreadsheets as flickr, photobucket et al. are for pictures?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy -

I think a single trip to Tools &gt; Options (or wherever it&#039;s been moved to in Excel 2007) is easier and cleaner than filling blank cells with formulas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy -</p>
<p>I think a single trip to Tools > Options (or wherever it&#8217;s been moved to in Excel 2007) is easier and cleaner than filling blank cells with formulas.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Pope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Pope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The line chart is easier. 
If you fill column B&#039;s empty values with =NA() you do not need to go via Tools &gt; options...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The line chart is easier.<br />
If you fill column B&#8217;s empty values with =NA() you do not need to go via Tools &gt; options&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy -

Except as Derek pointed out, you can change how blanks are treated and avoid the gaps. I am thinking that Derek&#039;s technique is probably the best discussed here. I think I&#039;ll have to rewrite the post, put all of the techniques here, and put his first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy -</p>
<p>Except as Derek pointed out, you can change how blanks are treated and avoid the gaps. I am thinking that Derek&#8217;s technique is probably the best discussed here. I think I&#8217;ll have to rewrite the post, put all of the techniques here, and put his first.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Pope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Pope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derek, 
I wrote xy-scatter rather than Line chart because as you point out the actual data line becomes broken otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derek,<br />
I wrote xy-scatter rather than Line chart because as you point out the actual data line becomes broken otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob -

You have my condolences. I have had a few projects obsoleted by 2007. I also have been able to salvage some complex charts, often by resorting to the &quot;hard&quot; way of achieving an effect or by sacrificing something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob -</p>
<p>You have my condolences. I have had a few projects obsoleted by 2007. I also have been able to salvage some complex charts, often by resorting to the &#8220;hard&#8221; way of achieving an effect or by sacrificing something else.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We just downgraded to Office 2007 at work. 
A very complex chart / project timeline tool was rendered obsolete by the Excel 2007.

Joy and bliss here.

At least everyone is in the same boat...

Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just downgraded to Office 2007 at work.<br />
A very complex chart / project timeline tool was rendered obsolete by the Excel 2007.</p>
<p>Joy and bliss here.</p>
<p>At least everyone is in the same boat&#8230;</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derek -

If I understand your approach, it should work fine in 2007. Since it entails multiple series of the same type using the same axis, the problem I&#039;ve butted against is not a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derek -</p>
<p>If I understand your approach, it should work fine in 2007. Since it entails multiple series of the same type using the same axis, the problem I&#8217;ve butted against is not a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, I tried a pure line chart version of your idea earlier today, using the &quot;all in one column&quot; method of faking multiple x ranges. and adding a third series to define the ends of the scale to avoid manually changing the scale. My write-up was interrupted by the need to get some work done, after which you posted. Darn that paying job :-) 

My intuition, that it would be no more fuss than Jon&#039;s method, was very wrong; for instance, I had to go into Tools.. Options to make the line interpolate between points, and so on.  The only advantage left was that in the end I had something reasonably robust if frequently-changing data was to be applied to the chart: it had one axis left on auto instead of two axes that needed manual aligning. 

Jon, would a line chart version also break in Excel 2007?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, I tried a pure line chart version of your idea earlier today, using the &#8220;all in one column&#8221; method of faking multiple x ranges. and adding a third series to define the ends of the scale to avoid manually changing the scale. My write-up was interrupted by the need to get some work done, after which you posted. Darn that paying job :-) </p>
<p>My intuition, that it would be no more fuss than Jon&#8217;s method, was very wrong; for instance, I had to go into Tools.. Options to make the line interpolate between points, and so on.  The only advantage left was that in the end I had something reasonably robust if frequently-changing data was to be applied to the chart: it had one axis left on auto instead of two axes that needed manual aligning. </p>
<p>Jon, would a line chart version also break in Excel 2007?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy -

I use both ways in my own work. In Excel 2003 the XY series option is a nice one, because the XY series can coexist on the line chart&#039;s date axis, and there&#039;s no need to use the secondary axis. But sometimes it&#039;s easier to let an axis provide its own labels, as above.

In Excel 2007, an XY series ignores the line chart date axis even when both are plotted on the primary axis and there should be no confusion. This has broken a good number (a bad number?!) of client solutions for no good reason. You can still plot the XY series on the secondary axis, but now the axes must manually be synchronized, and you lose the ability to use the secondary axis for another purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy -</p>
<p>I use both ways in my own work. In Excel 2003 the XY series option is a nice one, because the XY series can coexist on the line chart&#8217;s date axis, and there&#8217;s no need to use the secondary axis. But sometimes it&#8217;s easier to let an axis provide its own labels, as above.</p>
<p>In Excel 2007, an XY series ignores the line chart date axis even when both are plotted on the primary axis and there should be no confusion. This has broken a good number (a bad number?!) of client solutions for no good reason. You can still plot the XY series on the secondary axis, but now the axes must manually be synchronized, and you lose the ability to use the secondary axis for another purpose.</p>
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