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		<title>By: There&#8217;s More Than One Way to Skin a… Dataset &#124; FlowingData</title>
		<link>http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/california-majority-party-by-county/comment-page-1/#comment-2485</link>
		<dc:creator>There&#8217;s More Than One Way to Skin a… Dataset &#124; FlowingData</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] John put together a few versions - this being one of about five: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colin -

The aspect of David&#039;s offset bars that I was concerned with was the implied vertical passage of time. I wondered whether time should increase downwards as in David&#039;s chart, or upwards as I had visualized myself while first looking at the data. I&#039;m not too concerned about a vertical time axis, though. The measurements are discretely spaced, so it really isn&#039;t confusing, at least not to me.

Generally I think I like the clustered column chart better for showing two series (Democrat vs. Republican by county). As soon as more series are added to the chart, as in the charts shown in my updates, then line charts work best, and I didn&#039;t even consider clustered or stacked columns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colin -</p>
<p>The aspect of David&#8217;s offset bars that I was concerned with was the implied vertical passage of time. I wondered whether time should increase downwards as in David&#8217;s chart, or upwards as I had visualized myself while first looking at the data. I&#8217;m not too concerned about a vertical time axis, though. The measurements are discretely spaced, so it really isn&#8217;t confusing, at least not to me.</p>
<p>Generally I think I like the clustered column chart better for showing two series (Democrat vs. Republican by county). As soon as more series are added to the chart, as in the charts shown in my updates, then line charts work best, and I didn&#8217;t even consider clustered or stacked columns.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Banfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Banfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm.  The tornado chart doesn&#039;t work for me.  Time data is best shown on the x-axis since the &quot;flow&quot; of time is more natural from left to right.  Either of your last two charts (column and line) works best (depending on what you want to emphasize - trend or absolute value).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm.  The tornado chart doesn&#8217;t work for me.  Time data is best shown on the x-axis since the &#8220;flow&#8221; of time is more natural from left to right.  Either of your last two charts (column and line) works best (depending on what you want to emphasize &#8211; trend or absolute value).</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A step chart is best used when data is set at certain time points, and it remains constant between steps. We know this data is subject to continuous variation, even though we only see it measured at long intervals. This makes a line chart with data points appropriate, to indicate that the data varies from one point to the other.

I saw your sparkline chart, but it didn&#039;t really speak to me. Usually sparklines tell a story nicely, but this one was confusing. Red and &lt;del&gt;blue&lt;/del&gt; &lt;em&gt;black&lt;/em&gt; both refer to one series, even though red and blue are conventionally used for the two series (red=Republican). Also, although the two pieces add to 100%, somehow in this case I&#039;m dissatisfied not to see both values in the chart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A step chart is best used when data is set at certain time points, and it remains constant between steps. We know this data is subject to continuous variation, even though we only see it measured at long intervals. This makes a line chart with data points appropriate, to indicate that the data varies from one point to the other.</p>
<p>I saw your sparkline chart, but it didn&#8217;t really speak to me. Usually sparklines tell a story nicely, but this one was confusing. Red and <del>blue</del> <em>black</em> both refer to one series, even though red and blue are conventionally used for the two series (red=Republican). Also, although the two pieces add to 100%, somehow in this case I&#8217;m dissatisfied not to see both values in the chart.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge Camoes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge Camoes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, wouldn&#039;t this data qualify for a step chart?

I took a different approach and &lt;a href=&quot;http://charts.jorgecamoes.com/chart-redesign-california-majority-party-by-county/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;suggest a sparkline&lt;/a&gt; to display the democrat results around the 50% mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, wouldn&#8217;t this data qualify for a step chart?</p>
<p>I took a different approach and <a href="http://charts.jorgecamoes.com/chart-redesign-california-majority-party-by-county/" rel="nofollow">suggest a sparkline</a> to display the democrat results around the 50% mark.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were a lot of other submitted revisions to this chart. My favorite is by David of &lt;a href=&quot;http://d-randommusings.blogspot.com/2008/07/mediocre-statistcal-graphic.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Random Thoughts&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;p align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/wp-content/img200807/MediocreDavid.jpg&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were a lot of other submitted revisions to this chart. My favorite is by David of <a href="http://d-randommusings.blogspot.com/2008/07/mediocre-statistcal-graphic.html" rel="nofollow">Random Thoughts</a>:</p>
<p align="center"><img src="http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/wp-content/img200807/MediocreDavid.jpg" /></p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, it&#039;s cleaner without the value axis. Without the axis, the chart can also be made a bit smaller.

&lt;p align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/wp-content/img200807/CAVotersColumn2.png&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/wp-content/img200807/CAVotersLine2.png&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, it&#8217;s cleaner without the value axis. Without the axis, the chart can also be made a bit smaller.</p>
<p align="center"><img src="http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/wp-content/img200807/CAVotersColumn2.png" /></p>
<p align="center"><img src="http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/wp-content/img200807/CAVotersLine2.png" /></p>
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		<title>By: Debra Dalgleish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debra Dalgleish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Andreas&#039; suggestion to remove the value axis. It&#039;s distracting, and its label fights with the chart title.

The line chart does a better job of showing the change in each party&#039;s county numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Andreas&#8217; suggestion to remove the value axis. It&#8217;s distracting, and its label fights with the chart title.</p>
<p>The line chart does a better job of showing the change in each party&#8217;s county numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
		<link>http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/california-majority-party-by-county/comment-page-1/#comment-2354</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andreas -

Yes, I thought of a few adjustments like these, but then it would have taken me ten minutes instead of five to prepare this post! Thanks for the reminders, though.

Update: I had to redo the charts to correct a typo in the chart title, so I lightened the axes and removed the X axis ticks while I was at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andreas -</p>
<p>Yes, I thought of a few adjustments like these, but then it would have taken me ten minutes instead of five to prepare this post! Thanks for the reminders, though.</p>
<p>Update: I had to redo the charts to correct a typo in the chart title, so I lightened the axes and removed the X axis ticks while I was at it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Lipphardt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andreas Lipphardt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon - Well done ! Some minor improvements could be

- Removing the major tick marks on the category axis
- the axis could have some lighter Grey
- potentially you could even remove the value axis 

Andreas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon &#8211; Well done ! Some minor improvements could be</p>
<p>- Removing the major tick marks on the category axis<br />
- the axis could have some lighter Grey<br />
- potentially you could even remove the value axis </p>
<p>Andreas</p>
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