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		<title>By: Understanding Pie Charts &#124; eagereyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Understanding Pie Charts &#124; eagereyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 05:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is similar to the problem with a colleague of the pie chart, the donut chart. It is similar to the pie chart, but is missing a circular area in the center. This example was found on Jon Peltier&#8217;s blog. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is similar to the problem with a colleague of the pie chart, the donut chart. It is similar to the pie chart, but is missing a circular area in the center. This example was found on Jon Peltier&#8217;s blog. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 13:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excel&#039;s labels are not cognizant of each other, so there is no out-of-the-box mechanism to prevent their overlapping. Pie charts have a best fit setting for label position, but it&#039;s not particularly elegant.

I have seen routines to adjust the positions of individual labels until there is no overlap, but these have been rudimentary, and I cannot locate the specific one I&#039;m thinking of on the author&#039;s web site.

You can position the data labels manually: click once to select the series of labels, and a second time to select the individual label, then drag it into position. It is not easy to control the position closely using the mouse. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.appspro.com/Utilities/ChartLabeler.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rob Bovey&#039;s Chart Labeler&lt;/a&gt; has a feature that gives you closer control over positioning of data labels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excel&#8217;s labels are not cognizant of each other, so there is no out-of-the-box mechanism to prevent their overlapping. Pie charts have a best fit setting for label position, but it&#8217;s not particularly elegant.</p>
<p>I have seen routines to adjust the positions of individual labels until there is no overlap, but these have been rudimentary, and I cannot locate the specific one I&#8217;m thinking of on the author&#8217;s web site.</p>
<p>You can position the data labels manually: click once to select the series of labels, and a second time to select the individual label, then drag it into position. It is not easy to control the position closely using the mouse. <a href="http://www.appspro.com/Utilities/ChartLabeler.htm" rel="nofollow">Rob Bovey&#8217;s Chart Labeler</a> has a feature that gives you closer control over positioning of data labels.</p>
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		<title>By: Javier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Javier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 10:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Jon,

For the xy chart, I think it would be very nice to avoid the labels overlapping. I copied some vba code for attaching labels to the xy chart, but came with the same problem about overlapping. I was wondering whether you know how to solve it, and would be very grateful if you could share it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jon,</p>
<p>For the xy chart, I think it would be very nice to avoid the labels overlapping. I copied some vba code for attaching labels to the xy chart, but came with the same problem about overlapping. I was wondering whether you know how to solve it, and would be very grateful if you could share it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
		<link>http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/better-charts-of-graduation-rate-and-federal-spending/comment-page-1/#comment-6273</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naomi -

If you and your lawyer friend Ken don&#039;t mind, perhaps I could write about that macro some day. It&#039;s not a complex topic, well, not for someone who has been around Excel and VBA as long as I have, but it&#039;s a good way to discuss more uses of Excel and VBA together.

Nixnut -

I was suspecting that Naomi was using a select-the-point-and-paste approach, but I was thinking about something that used a bar chart and an XY point with a custom marker where the arrowhead goes. This keeps the shape of each arrowhead consistent despite the changing lengths of the arrows.

I&#039;ve written VBA procedures that create a chart, plot X and Y based on two fields in a data set, then adjust a shape according to one or more additional fields, and apply the shape to the chart. I&#039;ve done this to illustrate a vector field, that is, an array of arrows which have varying length and orientation. I&#039;ve used it to make custom bubble charts, where the bubble is something too complex to render in a simple bubble chart (like a pie chart, but don&#039;t tell anyone).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naomi -</p>
<p>If you and your lawyer friend Ken don&#8217;t mind, perhaps I could write about that macro some day. It&#8217;s not a complex topic, well, not for someone who has been around Excel and VBA as long as I have, but it&#8217;s a good way to discuss more uses of Excel and VBA together.</p>
<p>Nixnut -</p>
<p>I was suspecting that Naomi was using a select-the-point-and-paste approach, but I was thinking about something that used a bar chart and an XY point with a custom marker where the arrowhead goes. This keeps the shape of each arrowhead consistent despite the changing lengths of the arrows.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve written VBA procedures that create a chart, plot X and Y based on two fields in a data set, then adjust a shape according to one or more additional fields, and apply the shape to the chart. I&#8217;ve done this to illustrate a vector field, that is, an array of arrows which have varying length and orientation. I&#8217;ve used it to make custom bubble charts, where the bubble is something too complex to render in a simple bubble chart (like a pie chart, but don&#8217;t tell anyone).</p>
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		<title>By: nixnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>nixnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you already answered how to do that in excel here: http://peltiertech.com/Excel/ChartsHowTo/CustomMarkers.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you already answered how to do that in excel here: <a href="http://peltiertech.com/Excel/ChartsHowTo/CustomMarkers.html" rel="nofollow">http://peltiertech.com/Excel/ChartsHowTo/CustomMarkers.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Naomi B Robbins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naomi B Robbins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I do not consider myself to be primarily an Excel user, I drew this chart in Excel since it was for Jon&#039;s blog. To turn the bars to arrows I just drew arrows, copied them to the clipboard, and then selected the objects to be replaced by arrows and copy/pasted.

I did this the first time I used arrows and then Ken Klein, a brilliant lawyer who knows more about Excel than most Excel gurus, generalized what I did and wrote a macro for me to use in the future.  Anyone who wants a copy of the macro can send an email to me at  naomi at nbr-graphs.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I do not consider myself to be primarily an Excel user, I drew this chart in Excel since it was for Jon&#8217;s blog. To turn the bars to arrows I just drew arrows, copied them to the clipboard, and then selected the objects to be replaced by arrows and copy/pasted.</p>
<p>I did this the first time I used arrows and then Ken Klein, a brilliant lawyer who knows more about Excel than most Excel gurus, generalized what I did and wrote a macro for me to use in the future.  Anyone who wants a copy of the macro can send an email to me at  naomi at nbr-graphs.com.</p>
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