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		<title>By: We cant Cure Cancer, But we can Cure this Medicare Chart [Chart Busters] &#124; Pointy Haired Dilbert: Charting &#38; Excel Tips - Chandoo.org</title>
		<link>http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/bad-bar-chart-practices-or-send-in-the-clowns/comment-page-1/#comment-16660</link>
		<dc:creator>We cant Cure Cancer, But we can Cure this Medicare Chart [Chart Busters] &#124; Pointy Haired Dilbert: Charting &#38; Excel Tips - Chandoo.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is worth a thousand words, or so they say. But is a Choropleth worth the many line charts and clowns that you could squeeze into the same valuable screen real estate? Let&#8217;s find out, by [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is worth a thousand words, or so they say. But is a Choropleth worth the many line charts and clowns that you could squeeze into the same valuable screen real estate? Let&#8217;s find out, by [...]</p>
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		<title>By: savithri.v</title>
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		<dc:creator>savithri.v</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sir,
I tried doing a chart with dual category axis &amp; broken value axis using similar data, like the one sent to you. 
I need to break the Y axis as one of the series has large values dwarfing the rest.
As the sophisticated algebra that you have used in your ‘broken Y axis’ example was beyond my comprehension, I used a very rudimentary procedure for finding out X values for the cut off series. 
I tested this by inflating some values here &amp; there in the data – the cut off marker gets plotted on the required point in my chart.
But when I tried to apply the same  primitive logic in your example, I get slight differences in the X vales. Most likely, I’ve messed up the concept.
Mailed you the file. It would be nice if this could also get into the queue seeking your attention. 
savithri</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sir,<br />
I tried doing a chart with dual category axis &amp; broken value axis using similar data, like the one sent to you.<br />
I need to break the Y axis as one of the series has large values dwarfing the rest.<br />
As the sophisticated algebra that you have used in your ‘broken Y axis’ example was beyond my comprehension, I used a very rudimentary procedure for finding out X values for the cut off series.<br />
I tested this by inflating some values here &amp; there in the data – the cut off marker gets plotted on the required point in my chart.<br />
But when I tried to apply the same  primitive logic in your example, I get slight differences in the X vales. Most likely, I’ve messed up the concept.<br />
Mailed you the file. It would be nice if this could also get into the queue seeking your attention.<br />
savithri</p>
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		<title>By: savithri.v</title>
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		<dc:creator>savithri.v</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I made column chart, bar charts overlapped / stacked with separation, dot plots, line etc.  but still not able to figure out the one chart that would best represent 5 sets of data compared in 15 categories. I’ve sent you the file with the data. I am not jumping the queue &amp; would also post this in your Chart Doctor. (Feel like copying your clown in the presentation if nothing else works..)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made column chart, bar charts overlapped / stacked with separation, dot plots, line etc.  but still not able to figure out the one chart that would best represent 5 sets of data compared in 15 categories. I’ve sent you the file with the data. I am not jumping the queue &amp; would also post this in your Chart Doctor. (Feel like copying your clown in the presentation if nothing else works..)</p>
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		<title>By: CW Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>CW Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this, Jon. I&#039;m just switching into this field and have found your site very helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this, Jon. I&#8217;m just switching into this field and have found your site very helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Bridging Viewpoints &#187; Bad Bar Charts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridging Viewpoints &#187; Bad Bar Charts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Peltier wrote this informative and amusing blog post on one such bad bar chart.  Here is an image of that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Aron Szucs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aron Szucs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is my first visit to your site.  I found myself laughing hysterically at this post.  

Excellent site overall.  Many thanks for sharing.  

Aron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my first visit to your site.  I found myself laughing hysterically at this post.  </p>
<p>Excellent site overall.  Many thanks for sharing.  </p>
<p>Aron</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 02:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the chart Matt cited. The title is &quot;Assets Under Management&quot;.

&lt;p align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://peltiertech.com/images/2009-01/PieBySmartDraw.png&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

Because of the patterns, it&#039;s hard to see all the gaps between wedges. Also, I&#039;m not sure how to interpret the different years on the labels, unless it designates the &quot;class&quot; of the assets. At least the percentages add to 100%.

I think Professor Tufte might say, &quot;The only thing worse than a pie chart, is one that looks like this.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the chart Matt cited. The title is &#8220;Assets Under Management&#8221;.</p>
<p align="center"><img src="http://peltiertech.com/images/2009-01/PieBySmartDraw.png" /></p>
<p>Because of the patterns, it&#8217;s hard to see all the gaps between wedges. Also, I&#8217;m not sure how to interpret the different years on the labels, unless it designates the &#8220;class&#8221; of the assets. At least the percentages add to 100%.</p>
<p>I think Professor Tufte might say, &#8220;The only thing worse than a pie chart, is one that looks like this.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Healy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Healy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another fine example of chartjunk from SmartDraw is the following, which I&#039;m sure Jon will love (and if somebody points it out to Tufte he&#039;ll blow chunks):

http://www.smartdraw.com/examples/preview/index.aspx?example=Pie_Chart_-_Assets_Under_Management</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another fine example of chartjunk from SmartDraw is the following, which I&#8217;m sure Jon will love (and if somebody points it out to Tufte he&#8217;ll blow chunks):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.smartdraw.com/examples/preview/index.aspx?example=Pie_Chart_-_Assets_Under_Management" rel="nofollow">http://www.smartdraw.com/examples/preview/index.aspx?example=Pie_Chart_-_Assets_Under_Management</a></p>
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		<title>By: dbb</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice work (again)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice work (again)</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rene -

&quot;[Pie charts] impose a discipline on the chart-maker to include the total of the entire series.&quot;

One would think so, but did you see my post &lt;a href=&quot;http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/2009/01/13/pie-chart-plotting-deficiency/&quot; rel=&quot;bookmark&quot; title=&quot;Pie Chart Plotting Deficiency&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pie Chart Plotting Deficiency&lt;/a&gt; earlier this week?

If the chart maker wants to show how the bars in a bar chart compare to the total, then there is a certain obligation to indicate percentages (on a secondary axis or in data labels) or or to state the total (in a caption). In this case the intent of the chart was merely to show how many more people there are in China and India than in any other nations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rene -</p>
<p>&#8220;[Pie charts] impose a discipline on the chart-maker to include the total of the entire series.&#8221;</p>
<p>One would think so, but did you see my post <a href="http://peltiertech.com/WordPress/2009/01/13/pie-chart-plotting-deficiency/" rel="bookmark" title="Pie Chart Plotting Deficiency" rel="nofollow">Pie Chart Plotting Deficiency</a> earlier this week?</p>
<p>If the chart maker wants to show how the bars in a bar chart compare to the total, then there is a certain obligation to indicate percentages (on a secondary axis or in data labels) or or to state the total (in a caption). In this case the intent of the chart was merely to show how many more people there are in China and India than in any other nations.</p>
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